FastFreddy2 Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 There seem to be several much cheaper skinny/stretchy thigh boots on Ebay, Freddy. These for example: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Womens-Over-The-Knee-Thigh-High-Stiletto-Heel-Ladies-Stretch-Calf-Boots-Size-3-8-/271692925404?var=&hash=item3f422909dc http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ladys-Boots-High-Heel-Faux-Suede-Thigh-High-Zip-Stiletto-Navy-UK4-37-UK12-45-/151137177825?var=&hash=item23307a50e1 A better heel shape too.I quite like suede; I have several pairs of black suede boots!You need to read the small print ....Item 1. Calf circumference is 15 inches. If 15 was the 'opening' size even I wouldn't get them on 17 inch thighs ... Item 2.Calf circumference on these is 2cm larger than my calf, and thigh is 3cm larger, assuming measurements are correct. So not waders, but loose enough to fall down. Way back in 2008, I bought the thigh boots that got me back into heels, from Payless for about £25. I didn't take them off until I wrecked them a month later. Tight all the way up my leg. A stretchy neoprene upper, but soles made of cardboard. Felt wonderful, but made to be worn in the bedroom or to a nightclub once. I walked miles in them before the soles fell apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffer Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 If the boot fits ... or doesn't! 'Try these for 'thighs', sir.'Not having had the doubtful pleasure of inspecting/measuring your shapely pins, Freddy, I must accept that you know what suits them and what doesn't. I had assumed that the stretchy boots would probably have enough 'give' in them to be wearable. But you might find something else that does and is more affordable; there seem to be several on eBay, albeit many with platforms or too-high heels. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFreddy2 Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) I've tried a (small) number of times to acquire something long for my legs.With 'skinny pins' I'm prone to the cold, or cold wind at least, so I've always got leggings (long-johns) on under my jeans. If it's a bit warmer and likely to be cooler later in the day, I might be tempted to wear hold-ups to keep the chill off. I've seldom got bare flesh under my jeans/trousers. When it's REALLY cold, I might have hose, thermal leggings, and double-skinned trousers on.Having a pair of wearable thigh boots that could be worn to keep my legs warm would be great. I have tried to find something suitable, but a loose fit boot wouldn't look nice, and might not be particularly effective either. I see almost every day in newspapers, pictures of skinny women wearing skin-tight boots. (See below.) They probably pay a lot of money for them, and for celebs they might even be tax deductible, certainly they will be significantly more affordable to them than they are to me. I did find something that looked suitable from a Chinese supplier, but the boot was too high for shopping expeditions, and possibly too shiny too. (They were more fetish than fashion.) For the most part, people usually struggle to find a 'shaft' large enough. In my distant past I recall well at least 3 times, the respective women I was with struggled to get boots done up, because the shaft of the boots was too slim for them. I've only known that once for myself, and that was around the ankle closure, never on the upper shaft. That would have been circa 1973/74, when 'slim' people were a lot more common than they are now. I've put on weight too, but almost nothing on my legs. The first two images are of a pair of the £25 Payless boots from circa 2008. These photographs are of a size 6 (actually came up as a size 7) that I photographed to sell on an auction site circa 2012 as they weren't getting used by their owner. I hadn't really noticed before, but .... Although these were a snug fit on the thigh with the size 7's I wore out, even these (size 6) have loose material around the ankles. This is a pair of Pleaser "Natalie". If I remember, a UK9 that were donated to me. Didn't touch my legs anywhere. Maybe had 3 - 4 inches of extra material everywhere. Pleaser possibly sell more boots to men than women, and that might be apparent in their designs. As material technology develops, I see 'stretch' leather more and more, but it comes at a price. Stretchy faux suede, or a satin are much more affordable. I'll keep looking. Maybe when the Zara boots become available, I'll get lucky? Though £139 doesn't seem that 'lucky'. Probably unaffordable boots ... (to me at least) ....... More >> here << Edited September 11, 2015 by FastFreddy2 Typo. Added additional picture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hh4evr1 Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 To celebrate a new boot season I got these today in a size 7uk after getting size 6uk that were ok fit wise but the zip wouldn't do up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFreddy2 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) I may have found the perfect solution for my skinny legs .... "Perfect" except for cost .... Buy >> here << I have seen these in the flesh, and they look a lot more attractive when you are holding them in your hands.... The good thing for me, is the shaft is so slim, they would fit me. Price though .... A more realistic solution, though suede not leather (as with the suede Zara boots) ... Buy >> here << Still a bit up there on the budget front, suede, and the shaft is not so slim. Carvela, along with most of the KG range, get discounted after a couple of months, and nearly always goes to half price soon after Christmas... £90 though ... Might be an easier choice if they were leather. More reasonable still, and slim shaft ... Buy >> here << Might have to try these .... Edited September 25, 2015 by FastFreddy2 Format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hh4evr1 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Hope you find a pair soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 I have also been looking at boots this week. I have only 1 pair of knee high boots which are comfortable. I have also 2 pairs of thigh highs. 1 pair from New look and the other from a company called Tilly of London, not so comfortable. I found this pair on Ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151819099648?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&var=451012430073&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Real leather and being from Pleaser should be more comfortable. I don;t mind the price of $99. but will have to wait couple of weeks before I can buy., if I do buy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFreddy2 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Stumbled across another suede version, this time from Office (of London). From >> here << Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFreddy2 Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Could be a clone of the Alexander McQueen boot? At £104-09 >> here << 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffer Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Would these from Matalan be of any use to you, Freddy: http://www.matalan.co.uk/womens/footwear/s2604927/over-the-knee-bootsFrom the pic I saw in a mag, they looked fairly close fitting on the model. The heel is not very exciting but the price is right. Worth a try-on? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFreddy2 Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Thanks for the tip, but I can see from the picture the thigh width would be enormous on my stick-thin legs.By way of comparison ... I mentioned on another thread today I got my walking companion to try on some Steve Madden shoes (for my benefit). While in Debenhams next door, she had tried on some knee boots in a size 7. They fitted her (crippled) feet, and being fairly flat they seemed ideal. Until she did up the zipper... The boots actually ended on the knee, and she said they were uncomfortably tight around the knee joint. She is no longer the svelte size 8 or 10 of 25 years ago, but is a not uncommon 12/14. Her legs are not slim, nor are they bulbous. We were both disappointed the boots did not fit.As I was there, and I can get into a seven (though not entirely comfortably) I tried on the boot too. Well, it was embarrassingly loose everywhere. I literally could have held my hand on my calf, and still got the boot zipper done up. Fairly sure this is them: They don't look overly baggy, but fitted me like wellies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffer Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) I thought I would recognise the onset of autumnal weather (drizzling here today) by wearing a pair of these boots for a brief shopping foray into town, a round trip of about 1.6 miles:These boots (from Evans, size supposedly 11UK wide) have always been a bit tight for length but are wearable and look OK under bootcut jeans which cover about half the 3.5" heel. I can't say, however, that the trip was an unmitigated pleasure and I was glad to get home again and remove them. I think my feet have swollen a little over the alleged summer, and also the boot heels have a tendency to kick inwards a little, which doesn't improve my gait. I noticed too as I monitored my progress whilst passing plate-glass windows (who doesn't do this?) that my right boot seemed to be less concealed than the left. It was probably my gait but it is possible that I have one leg a little longer than the other, but with trouser legs of same length, which creates this 'revelation'.I may well have been sussed, especially if walking a little awkwardly, but I really don't care. Whether the expedition was worthwhile given the discomfort is another matter.(sorry if the pic is too intrusive - not sure how to make it a little smaller) Edited October 6, 2015 by Puffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFreddy2 Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 A note on 'leg length' first: I have measured the legs on my jeans/trousers more times than I care to remember. (On some I've even written the measured length on labels to prevent me checking again.) I have found slightly mismatched leg lengths, but not often. Once for sure. I also have a procedure for checking leg lengths on heels, that usually involves a lot of time, 5 pairs of heels, and two mirrors. My conclusion is that the side one 'dresses' must have a consequence on the effective trouser leg length if the trousers/jeans are fitted, as mine are. (I have possibly two pairs that are so fitted, decent folk would describe them as vulgar. )I have had one pair altered to change a slightly mismatched length, but my choice of 'donor' garment was poor, so I never wore them. At a reasonable £9 a go, I might try again. Two pairs of my heeling jeans have been shortened using this method to allow their use with mens shoes. Getting the length changed was actually cheaper than buying replacements... I used to be a fairly girlie size 7. I am at least 3 stone heavier now, and am not surprised my feet are currently an 8. Mrs Freddy has put some weight on too (though still reasonably trim) and she has grown half a shoe size in around 20 years. (Though sadly, 2 dress sizes.) I'm not in any way suggesting if I or anyone else lost weight, our feet would shrink. In that regard, I think it's a one way street. What I am suggesting, is that weight might have some longterm effect on our shoe sizes? Taller people, need bigger feet to keep upright. Heavier people must need wider feet to accommodate weight or bones would break surely? Even worse, I think the extra weight and our growing years, make us less inclined to endure foot pain. Years ago, Mrs Freddy lived in heels, almost literally as she wouldn't leave the house in a flat shoe. Now, if the heel isn't 'comfy', it's not used and disposed of. I have a little 'trick' I use to help keep my feet pain free, while wearing a snug fitting heel, or one I will wear for some hours: I've owned what look like stocking grade ankle socks, that fit like compression socks. I tend to wear two pairs, and they shape my feet into two little sausages that allow me to wear shoes that might otherwise rub or pinch. A double layer prevents blisters of course (as with Thousand Mile socks.) Apparently (the walking specialist tells me) pushing the fat from around your feet under the sole, helps pad bones and raises comfort levels. Works for me anyway.I've also noticed my feet seem to shape themselves into shoes? If I want to get into some snug shoes, I can do it more easily by wearing a larger similar sized shoe. I used to wear a tight court in say a UK8 for 15-20 minutes before wearing the Schuh Lois I sold on - as they were at best, a UK7. I got them on though, just couldn't walk in them.I've also helped reshape a tight shoe by wearing it having dried off and dressed after a hot bath. Letting the moisture leaving my feet 'steam' the shoe into a more accommodating shape. While your outing didn't seem to produce a very satisfying venture, at least you went out in a heel, which I feel makes it a success. Getting spotted comes with the territory though ... Any man who believes he hasn't been spotted while wearing a heel, can remain blissfully naive, but I wouldn't believe no-one noticed myself. Women, especially those born abroad, will make no secret of them noticing. (Is it still called staring?) Brits seldom bother to take a second look, which I'm glad of. Have you considered getting a pair of boots made for you? A member here (Heels4me I think) got just about any style made for him, for circa £150. Not the price many here would pay, but made for your feet, they should be über comfortable. It's a realistic solution, and they might outlast your interest in wearing a heel? Not a UK outfit. which might be obvious given the price ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffer Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 Interesting thoughts about leg length and shoe size, Freddy. I think it quite logical that feet are (or normally are) in proportion to build and height, but not so sure that putting on weight will necessarily result in 'fatter' feet, aside from some possible temporary bloating through water retention. Foot size (and height) do tend to shink a little with age, but I guess that foot size does not effectively reduce because stiffness, bunions and other ailments will tend to make feet less flexible and therefore more needful of a comfy/roomy shoe (as most wives, at least, demonstrate).I think you have forgotten that I do have a pair of custom-made 'Miguel Jones' boots from Mexico - pictures posted previously. They cost about £110 shipped and fit very well. They are comfortable enough to wear (given the 5" heel) but my slightly bow-legged gait does not help. Under longish bootcut trousers they are quite discreet (although the long pointed toes are very apparent - which doesn't bother me) but they really deserve to be shown-off under normal length fairly narrow straight jeans - which would doubtless frighten any foreign woman, inquisitive child or horse within spotting range. One day, I might have the courage ...Last Thursday, whilst in another town, I saw a women walking around whose look was one I wish men could aspire to with impunity. She was tall and of medium build (which meant she was of an overall size/outline comparable to many mid-sized men) and wearing a longish black jacket, wide-legged trousers and fully-visible black suede ankle boots with a straight heel about 4" high. She looked very smart-casual and comfortable and I really wished I could have been 'in her body'. The boots were the most obviously feminine thing she wore but seemed to me to be eminently suitable for a man as part of a comparable overall look - if only the (perceived) barrier to male heel wearing did not exist. And I already have rather similar boots: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFreddy2 Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Interesting thoughts about leg length and shoe size, Freddy. I think it quite logical that feet are (or normally are) in proportion to build and height, but not so sure that putting on weight will necessarily result in 'fatter' feet, aside from some possible temporary bloating through water retention. Foot size (and height) do tend to shink a little with age, but I guess that foot size does not effectively reduce because stiffness, bunions and other ailments will tend to make feet less flexible and therefore more needful of a comfy/roomy shoe (as most wives, at least, demonstrate). Just to satisfy my curiosity, what does "shink" mean? It's obviously some new (Kentish) slang for shape changing, but Google is not up to date with it and neither am I... As far as feet changing shape are concerned, I believe most strongly, "older" feet spread. Muscle wastage, less flexible soft tissue, more weight to support ... it must all add up? You are right that I (continue) to forget about your MJ's. Does he also do more wearable 'street' styles too? I had in mind some shoes with a slightly more modest heel, and a less pointed toe-box when I made my suggestion. My thinking being a handmade shoe would fit, and allow (encourage) more frequent ventures. I will have to confess, that without the (sometimes reluctant) support from my walking friend (she with bunions and a new/failing hip) and my (resigned to it) better half, I have my doubts I would spend so much time in public wearing heels. I used to go out alone, and late at night, which is not necessarily a great option. More than once I found myself in an uncomfortable situation, though embarrassment, was fortunately the worst outcome. Believe me when I say, I am appreciative to them both for the access to the company of them while I wear a heel in public. There is no greater disguise, than a woman walking with you. Not only camouflage, but visual confirmation that at least one regular person in the world accepts a man in a heel. The 'scene' from your Thursday visit feels familiar. I couldn't say how many times I've seen girls/women out in heels, or even a whole (androgynous) outfit and thought the same thing ... How much I'd like to be wearing that. While I recognise "we" are not physically equal, I have always been a supporter of equal rights for women. Sadly, there are no 'equal rights' for men. While women can dress in anything they like, this privilege does not extend to men. Colours (ie red) are "banned". Whole styles/types are "banned". And of course, what do most people think of men in heels? "Banned".Perhaps in the next life? Edited October 13, 2015 by FastFreddy2 Typo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffer Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 Sorry about the missing 'r' in 'shrink', Freddy - I was merely copying your excellent example in 'wok/work' elsewhere. We had better now each get our 'rs' into gear beforte continuing! (And I have little knowledge of Kentish slang - or that of men of Kent - as I am a Middlesex boy originally, cock.)MJ does all sorts of boots to order, often with 4" or higher heels. Suggest you look at: http://stores.ebay.co.uk/cowboybootsusa/Made-to-Order-boots-/_i.html?_fsub=1008848017 and http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Made-To-Order-Ankle-boots-choose-your-style-heel-height-shape-gallery-inside-/261597052770 Miguel has some ex-stock too. You can find many other styles he has made thru Google, e.g. at: https://www.flickr.com/photos/custom-boots/ I found him pleasant and helpful to deal with (his English is good) and the boots took less time to make and deliver than I was expecting, even allowing for the small alteration he made at my request before finishing them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shyheels Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 At last, I have been able to get on here. My password had not been working and I couldn't get a new on through the link until just now.i am a big boot fan - indeed my whole interest here is boots. I do not wear any other kind if footwear that is perceived to be feminine other than nice tall boots. I have big feet UK12+ and then legs from much cycling and in order to get otk boots that fit (and were not for the fetish crowd) I had to go custom. I bought some really lovely suede ones from Jean Gaborit - not cheap, I know, and beyond most budgets, including mine were I to have a collection as most people here seem to have. But this is my one foray into heels and so I pushed the boat out. You only live once and you can wear only one pair at a time!i love the boots. They are perfect and the quality of the craftsmanship and if the heavy suede is incredible. And they are nice and warm on chilly days.as to the look mentined above with the high heeled ankle boots and the generally refned conservative outfit - I too nitice that often and regret that such stylishness is not 'allowed' men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFreddy2 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 I think you may have to have made 5 posts before you can add pictures, but it would be good to have a glimpse of your boots, if you wouldn't mind?You might be right about "beyond most budgets", and certainly would be for me I think. As with Puffer and his MJ's, I think the two of you might have the right idea. If I could go back and undo the 100 or so purchases I've made over the last (almost) 8 years, I might do better with the one perfect pair, rather than 99 that aren't so perfect. That said, Mrs Freddy will tell you I'm a collector. I don't have room for 10 bicycles, or 5 motorbikes, or 3 cars and I've no interest at all in postage stamps .... Having a collection of boots (with some shoes) fills my secondary need too (of collecting. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffer Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 I dshould like to see a pic of your boots, Shyheels; they sound great (even if costly). I tend to agree with Freddy about shoe 'collections' (although I do tend to amass all sorts of other stuff - or 'clutter' as it is sometimes misnamed). A couple of pairs of comfortable and satisfying boots or shoes would do me too - but the problem is that (unless one is very lucky) it takes a number of attempts to find the near-perfect pair, so an unwittingly growing collection is likely. Yes, the unwanted ones can be disposed of ... one day soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFreddy2 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I dshould like to see a pic of your boots, Shyheels; they sound great (even if costly). I tend to agree with Freddy about shoe 'collections' (although I do tend to amass all sorts of other stuff - or 'clutter' as it is sometimes misnamed). A couple of pairs of comfortable and satisfying boots or shoes would do me too - but the problem is that (unless one is very lucky) it takes a number of attempts to find the near-perfect pair, so an unwittingly growing collection is likely. Yes, the unwanted ones can be disposed of ... one day soon.There was an elderly eccentric fella called Mr Trebus (now sadly passed) on a TV show called Life of Grime (a favourite of mine), who collected, almost anything - but mostly old bits of wood and newspaper. He was and still is, known for being a 'benchmark' (someone against everyone else is compared) collector.Mrs Freddy makes mention of Mr Trebus from time to time .... making a disfavourable comparison between him and another member of our household. I take it on the chin of course ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shyheels Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) I was lucky in finding a perfect pair. No need to collect. Although by a fortuitous string of events I have subsequently acquired a pair of flat heeled brown suede OTK boots which I like equally well and which look great with jeans. Not at all feminine, except by means of society's broad and prejudcial association with women and tall boots. Looked at in any neutral framework, there is nothing intrinsically feminine about them.As a cyclist with an interest in history, I find interesting parallels with the golden age of the bicycle when newly liberated women were taking to their bicycles and adopting - at some considerable social risk - trousers. It was the bicycle that launched the shift towards trousers for women. Edited October 19, 2015 by Shyheels 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffer Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 There was an elderly eccentric fella called Mr Trebus (now sadly passed) on a TV show called Life of Grime (a favourite of mine), who collected, almost anything - but mostly old bits of wood and newspaper. He was and still is, known for being a 'benchmark' (someone against everyone else is compared) collector.Mrs Freddy makes mention of Mr Trebus from time to time .... making a disfavourable comparison between him and another member of our household. I take it on the chin of course ... I think your wife has been speaking to mine, Freddy - exactly the same cutting and totally exaggerated remarks have been heard regularly here! (But more than one recent household project has benefitted, physically and financially, from the ready availability of items squirelled away for a couple of eons, just in case ...) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFreddy2 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Got an email from Zara this morning (Thursday) to tell me their long boot in a size 8 was available. They also said other enquirers had been advised of availability, so if I was buying I should be quick. Too late, by the time I read the message, already out-of-stock again. The Nasty Girl boot is also out-of-stock all the larger sizes, including the one I might have been tempted to order. Being 95% certain either/both will have to be returned, means I am less disappointed than I might otherwise be. If the Zara boot was in leather though, I would have been really disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFreddy2 Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 Another message from Zara ... But still no size 8. Demand must be high? Or I need to be quicker ... 3rd time lucky maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shyheels Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 I would imagine 8 must be a very popular size, although my perspective may be warped coming from the size-13 end of the spectrum. But then, seeing as the guy who owns and founded Zara is the second or third richest man in the world, it could just be that he has found himself a nice business, pulled himself up by everybody else's bootstraps as it were. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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