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Not sure why this site and HHPlace are losing steam. I think in part it is due to so many there being lovers of the extreme, though HHPlace still has several guys that wear reasonable heels, But it does make me wonder where all the guys went. I doubt they stopped wearing heels, so why did they quit posting their trials and tribulations. I admit there is not a ton of input that holds my interest anymore, but there is no where else to go to find those with similar interests, so I'm not going anywhere.