FastFreddy2

11 hours ago, Puffer said:

However, I did experience some discomfort in the tips of my big toes - presumably my feet were being pushed forward into the otherwise quite roomy rounded toeboxes - and this lasted for some time after I took them off.   Not an uncommon problem; maybe a little padding (e.g. foam) inside the toebox will help.   I do think that a more pointed toe would be more comfortable, as well as (to me) better-looking.

While I seldom experience pain or discomfort in wearing a heel or even poorly fitting shoe (no sense - no feeling), I too have a foot shape more pointed than square. I also have toenails tough enough to cut steel, and they make short work of socks/hose and leather. I have often suspected I walk with my big toe curled upward, with it thinking it is in a high heel and my foot expects to be bent.  If I do not keep my big toenail in check, I can ruin a sock everytime I wear one, and soft shoes always 'meet their maker' through my toe wearing a hole in the top of the shoe.

I do not want that to happen to any of my precious heels, so my solution is gel toe-covers.

Buy here.....

https://www.superdrug.com/Health/Foot-Care/Foot-Care-Tools-and-Accessories/Superdrug-Toe-Gel-Protector/p/506060

Not for everyone I'm sure, but they work very well for me. 

On 10/15/2020 at 10:44 PM, Puffer said:

Yes, one can of course pause it, but a longer 'moving' shot would have been good too.   I like the ankle boots too!

You possibly know this, but YT videos can be played at different speeds.

Some illegally uploaded films with outstanding copyright,  sometimes have to be played back at something other than 'normal' speed for them to be watched. Compressing recordings, helps avoid detection and subsequent removal. I discovered this completely by accident.

Or ..... You could confirm your age (over 18) by using a gmail account and watch the videos the trailer showcases?

I didn't include links for those because sometimes a log in is required to watch.... (And while you can lead people to water ....  )

14 hours ago, Puffer said:

Or was I just dreaming?  

Not dreaming, but the videos you have been watching of a high heeled walker on a treadmill, were not made at Maison Freddy.

Tall people on the treadmill.....  

I would like to own some of the shoes seen in the original videos however.... 

On 10/11/2020 at 1:56 PM, Puffer said:

I agree that the moulded plastic heel tips commonly found on so many (women's) shoes are unduly noisy and don't wear too well.   (And I've never found a source of them as replacements either, even by searching trade sources.   Too many variations in size and peg-location, perhaps?   What do cobblers use as replacements, I wonder?  Or are shoes with such worn-out heels usually abandoned?)

2 hours ago, Bread Heel said:

I’ve used stiletto-heel-tips.co.uk once before to buy some metal heel tips as a replacement. They were a good company to deal with and I would use them again. 

2 hours ago, Puffer said:

Tips for stiletto heels are readily available in metal and other (plastic) materials.   But ready-made 'plug-in' tips for wider heels do not seem to be available and it was these that I was referring to, hence the likely need to make them from sheet material.

I once bought some attractive block heeled ankle boots with the sort of 'plug-in' replacement heel(pad)s mentioned above, being supplied as spares to the fitted originals.  I returned the boots immediately. The pads were very cheap (and cheap looking) and once the replacement pair had been used too, what then? 

I too have used  https://stiletto-heel-tips.co.uk/index.htm And they are highly recommended. Very, very helpful people.

Good news on the Recite purchase. 

12 hours ago, Puffer said:

  Not to mention the Swiss hotelier whose booking confirmation sent to an English tourist stated that 'There is a French widow in your room which offers delightful prospects'.

I would book there .... 

(More of a typo error than translation error?)

14 hours ago, Puffer said:

One suggestion (but I've not tried it myself) would be to glue the new heel material over an existing heelpad when the latter is new or has had only little wear.   That should save the original heel and could easily add another 4-6mm of heel height without upsetting the shoe's balance, if that helps.

I have in the past asked my local friendly cobbler about repairs to modern heels and soles. He has told me of a rubber 'look-a-like' used on cheaper shoes that won't take the glue he (and you) might use on them. Pins might keep them in place for a while, on a heel I expect, but longterm? And would you want to risk losing part of a heel while out?

Another cobbler replaced some (noisy) hard plastic heel covering with thicker (quieter) "rubber" heel covering at my request. Transformed them, and as a side benefit, I found heel-slides (hard plastic inducing heel skids) stopped too. Shoe repairers can seem expensive when compared to "throwaway" styles, but £15 spent on reheeling can be worthwhile if it keeps some attractive shoes 'on the road'.... 

13 hours ago, Puffer said:

Yes, indoor pursuits and those involving exercise rather than just socialising seem to be the most popular at present.   (But surely most of your shoes are well-suited to indoor pursuits that also involve modest exercise?  )

I enjoy walking in a heel, itself a great form of exercise.   Sadly, Maison Freddy doesn't have a treadmill or suitable space for walking far in a straight line...  

13 hours ago, Puffer said:

How long, I wonder, before we see 'Covid Research' charity shops?

Something I neglected to mention about the C/R shop .... Not for the first time as I arrived later in the day, I found a board up saying 'we can't cope with any more donations today, please bring them back another time'. I left my bag of shoes and other 'as new' donations anyway. I wasn't going to make another trip ... As reported in several newspapers, folk used lockdown to have a bit of a clear out, and charity shops have been inundated with donations. Conversely, folk are not buying in the way they used to. (Where to wear?) From the little I've looked, hoarders of attractive size 8 shoes have not been so obliging, unless these shops are promoting the higher turnover (of womens shoes) by putting out the smaller sizes?

Taxpayers will be paying (through the nose) for Covid Research if/when a vaccine is found/created. 

I think I bought some Aldo ankle boots earlier this year from Ebay, and can't remember the last pair of shoes I bought before that. I've managed to sell a couple of pairs I either haven't worn or won't wear, but it's been hard work to sell anything shoe related. Some listed for months, and even then, practically given away. In fact 3 pairs (all unworn) were dropped off at a Cancer Research charity shop about 2 weeks ago, as they might have better luck than me with carriage handicapping anything I might be offering. 

With people staying in more, I suppose demand for any shoes has shrunk. Camera equipment and cycling bits, seems to have a much greater demand.  

14 hours ago, Puffer said:

The nails (even if steel) will tend to wear down with the rubber and don't really add to the life of the heel as repaired (or make it noisy).   Their function is essentially to secure the heel pad.   If panel pins are used and sunk slightly into the pad surface (using punch if necessary), they do not 'interfere' with the pad itself, or pose any possible risk to a floor surface.

The nails weren't pins, more the 'hob nail' type.

The chap with the modified heels was "Firefox" who hasn't been seen here for some considerable time. (Over a decade I would think.) At the time I wasn't really interested in the modification, because I never thought I would ever be wearing a block heel. Either stilettos, or flats. (So naive!) I am recalling something I saw 12 years ago, with a duration of under 2 seconds during a conversation that wasn't of any interest. At the time I had very very very little experience of wearing a heel around people in daylight. Things are easier/simpler at night, and at the time I still had the embers of a social life.

Not long after that I wrecked a new pair of New Look ankle boots when the heel went down a crack in the pavement. Some time after that (and despite me getting significantly more careful), I still had a heel I liked, go down a metal grate in the pavement outside what could have been a building made in the Victorian era. I have since started covering heels I might use outside, with a couple of layers of heat-shrink to help prevent that, but I seldom wear a stiletto near a pavement these days if I have a choice. I had plans to wear some slightly more outrageous shoes later in the year, but covid has done for that. 

12 hours ago, Puffer said:

I'm probably not suggesting anything new to you, but I have found that one straightforward technique for tip replacement on block heels is to fit a piece of softwood into the hollow heel.   It can be quite easily shaped to be a rough push fit and flush with the underside and will not usually require any adhesive to secure it.   A suitable piece of rubber (possibly salvaged from some otherwise worn-out men's heels, or cut from a sheet of heel material) can then be stuck and/or nailed to the wood and further shaped to the right profile if necessary.   Nailing gives extra security, particularly on any heel less than 25mm or so across; brass gimp pins (about 12mm) are ideal as they will wear with the rubber.

I've seen the results of such a repair, and it looked quite stout - shall we call it.  With so much metal nailed into the heel, it was never going to get worn out.

I will think about doing this, if ever I wear down the heel of the shoe. 

I've always thought highly of ASOS and their range of shoes and boots. I'm glad the Penelopes were spotted by you two.

As ASOS have been mentioned here so frequently, I went and had a look at the current offerings, and picked about 8 styles I'd be very happy to own. Thing is, right now, where to wear?

I have some ASOS ankle boots with a highish block heel in a size 7 I enjoy wearing. (Must be a picture on the forum here of them somewhere.) The heel must be hollow and isn't as quiet as I would like. If ever I wear them enough for them to need reheeling, I will fill the void in the heel, and the heel 'tip' replaced with softer quieter rubber rather than the hard/noisy plastic of the original.

8 hours ago, Heels said:

Welcome back FF2.  World has changed in the last 6 months. I have to wear full  PPE at work when im doing certain jobs. I wear a face mask with filters, gloves, apron, hard hat  and ear defenders. Work  is much better now, then at the start of lockdown. Supervisor is seems much calmer now. He now comes in late and stays late once we all gone home. Sometimes I do forget about trying to keep a safe distance not that its possible with the work we do. Its delivery drivers that is my main issue now. They come right up to you when needing paperwork signed but could be my fault as well.

I understand that not everyone is constantly 'aware'. A couple of times, I have breached the social distancing requirements, but at least I've been outside when it happened. Inside, I have taken a step backward when someone got too close. I did had a stand-up row with a fella twice my size when I asked him if he didn't know what 6ft foot looked like, when he stood next to me in a supermarket. (Boy, was he cross.) 

Bottom line is, I think it's all about mitigation, reducing the percentage chance of talking to someone infected, in a way they can infect you. With all your PPE and the slim chance someone infected is going to be in front of you, I'd say you have very little to worry about. As long as any of us don't become (too) obsessed with being careful, and allow 'taking care' to stop us doing things we want to do, all those who want to stay safe should stay safe.

As I preach to anyone I can make listen .... Back in my production days, I used to be a welder. During a 10 hour shift, I would wear a mask that covered the lower half of my face. I was the only one in the workshop that did I might mention. We had extraction, but it wasn't like working in a breeze for obvious reasons. (Wind would remove gas-shield.) The stuff I found in the mask at the end of the shift proved it was a prudent thing to do. Most of my work mates were smokers, so they were just doubling up on smoke into their lungs and didn't seem bothered.

Not once during that time (nearly 4 years) did I in any way feel discomfort by wearing the thick gauze mask. Nor the shield fastened to my head, nor with the cap I wore underneath that (to protect my hair and scalp from hot metal popping into the air as I worked). During recent weeks I hear all the time that masks bother people. I have very little patience for those who resist the need to wear one. Those same people should insist their time in an operating room has the 6-8 staff in there breathing on their open wounds with hospital staff not wearing masks, nor bothering with any other form of sanitation. 

Imagine what the reaction would have been during WWII if people insisted they didn't 'black out' their homes because of the inconvenience, or didn't spend nights in bomb shelters because they preferred the comfort of their own homes.  Shorter lives is what they likely would have had.  Why do I use this comparison? At one stage covid deaths in the UK surpassed the average death rate of armed forces fighting abroad during that war. To date, covid has been more successful at killing UK residents, than Göring was between 1939 to 1945, and done it 12 times faster. 

Masks with a valved vent and shaped nose are less likely to steam up glasses.  I used the same (disposable) one for 30 minute weekly or fortnightly shopping trips from the start of March until the end of August, when I replaced it. (The replacement seems to have a faulty valve, but cost about £1-30 so it won't hurt to throw it.) These masks are left for a week or more between uses, so even if they are contaminated, I don't need to be concerned when I next use one. (I currently have 3 on the go now anyway.) I also wear gloves - all the time. I may get through 5 or more pairs during a trip out, but it means I don't have to constantly cleanse/sanitise my hands. I wash the gloves in disinfectant so I can re-use them. I suppose re-using a disposable mask, or gloves might seem a bit mean, but at the time there were no masks, there were no gloves. That 'excuse' no longer exists. There is now a wide variety of choice and price levels.

I have reduced the amount of time spent in stores by doing click and collect, and this week had a home delivery (my first) from Waitrose. Tesco charges £1-50 to have someone do my shopping for me. Yay!! While I have heard complaints about having someone else pick fresh produce, I have the following experience: I had encouraged someone to use Tesco delivery. They paid a premium for the delivery because they wanted it delivered lunchtime on a Saturday. They are retired so could have the delivery any time (including when delivery was almost free) but wanted it, "when they wanted it". Cost them £5-50 and saved them almost three hours it would have taken them to achieve the same outcome. They don't drive so 2 bus rides plus an hour or so in store .... Anyway, the order turns up and 2 of the 3 prepacked vegetables turn up with 'use by' dates that were also the delivery date. The recipient complained to me (despite me not being a Tesco employee) and I said to ring Tesco. When they rang Tesco, they got a refund on the veg. Then the 'free' veg got frozen and used when required. Free food.

With the Waitrose order I had a similar experience in that I neglected to tick the "no substitutions" on an item, and it got substituted. They don't want returns after they have been handled, so I told the driver I didn't want it before it was unloaded. Outcome? I got the substitution for free. Not sure why, but the goodwill worked. I have nothing but good-to-great experience with click and collect, and home delivery. I still go to stores, but I don't need to be inside for more than 10 minutes. Same is true of DIY purchases. I go in, spend 10 or less minutes purchasing, then leave. I have been masked and gloved up since the start of March this year. It's not ideal, but I am happy to do anything I can to protect myself from 'invasion' by any enemy. 

Sadly, those who feel they are 'immune' or not likely to have severe symptoms don't care if they infect others. Well it's their poor attitude that is getting clubs/pubs, restaurants and cinemas closed. Their actions that is making travel hazardous on trains/bus/planes, and will eventually cause longterm damage to the economy. Ironically, the longer they 'enjoy' their resistance to sanitary compliance, the deeper in debt UK PLC becomes. They are building a national debt that they will have to repay.  Karma.

Here endeth the sermon.... 

I wonder if anyone had any notion of how the world would change when I wrote up that visit? Certainly not me. At the time, there were bag checks, because folk (and our government) were concerned about terrorist attacks. Now we are all concerned about viral attacks.....

Last Friday evening I went to a couple of my 'usual' haunts, my first outing in heels for months. Although I didn't have to, I arrived during the evening as I have many times in the past. At Brent Cross, many shops were already closed for the day at 6.15pm. I decided to go to Westfield White City. It was raining heavily, but I went anyway, arriving just before 8pm. More stores closed and so was the M+S cafeteria they have set up outside their store in the mall. The evening was a 'bust'.

Worse for me, was the apparent failure by young people and some of those who looked like they might have ethnic backgrounds to wear face masks. I got very frustrated, very quickly and left the centre by 9pm. I don't mind if people want to exercise their right to 'freedom of choice', but they shouldn't be doing it in spaces shared with others. There were messages repeated every couple of minutes over the tannoy stating visitors to the mall HAD to wear a mask. We all know that going into shops, masks must be worn. The mall didn't enforce their choice, nor did any shops. So I left.

If 20% of our populace has breathing or emotional problems that mean they can't wear a mask, the NHS has bigger problems than covid. 

14 hours ago, Bread Heel said:

I’m not sure that having a large collection counts as a downside, unless you’re referring to your bank balance! I wish I had a larger collection, or at least one with more variety. The lack of opportunity to wear them certainly would be a downside.

It is. I have some attractive and comfortable courts (including red patents) I would love to wear out. (B+Q, Screwfix, all the trendy places) but 'propriety' and Covid prevents any adventures of that nature at the moment.

Last Friday evening, I went to one of my old haunts, Westfield White City. Mindful anyone in the centre is supposed to wear a mask, LEGALLY, anyone in a shop is supposed to...  I was annoyed at how many didn't bother. Predominantly younger folk, and those who looked like they might have ethnic backgrounds. What didn't make things any better, was that may shops closed even earlier than usual. 

13 hours ago, Puffer said:

I would expect you to look up to me in any case, my dear fellow, regardless of heels!     And I would be looking up to Bread Heels, but only by an inch or so.

(Why does that sketch with Messrs Cleese, Barker and Corbett come so readily to mind?) 

"I know my place....."  

On 10/4/2020 at 9:47 AM, Puffer said:

An interesting comparison between the two 'owner-occupiers'!   If the heel height is the same on both (a tad under 5" I believe), then the steeper gradient on Freddy's boots (size 8 I assume) is quite apparent in comparison with those of Bread Heels (12/13).   

It was a UK7. I'd ordered an 8 along with another pair of Steve Madden boots, but they sent a 7?? A tad too tight to keep. (I thought I'd mentioned this?)

On 10/4/2020 at 10:40 AM, Bread Heel said:

Some guys (with smaller feet) get all the luck!

I would think the shaft length increases. There is a fractional difference between the 12 and 13 but that could just be coincidental. I look to have less going up over the knee than on Freddy’s, but I am 6’ 3”.

Lets' just say I'm shorter. If ever the three of us were to  meet, even with heels, I'd still be looking up to you both. 

The upside to that of course, I can wear a large size 7 or size 8 shoe.  The downside to that is, it means I've a large collection of shoes and boots that means I need to live until I'm 130 years old to wear them all. I hope to get as close as I can.  

Them's very slim legs. 

Obviously owned by a vegan basketball player.  

Mine, not so much .....

But still 'baggy' around the calves.

2 hours ago, Bread Heel said:

 

1 hour ago, Puffer said:

 

I'm not keen on the projecting welt on the sole of Bread Heel's western boots - and even less on the 'spur ridge' at the rear.   These are quite typical of 'cowboy' boots but this is not (yet) the Wild West!   I do like the toe shape, however.

It was the 'spur heel' (what a great descriptive term) that stopped me buying. Concerns over a hem getting caught on the heel without me realising....

But I like the toe. That 'projecting welt' protecting the long shapely toe of the boot. They would pass, everywhere.

On 9/19/2020 at 9:19 PM, Puffer said:

Well done!  I hope we can see a pic of you wearing them.   Are they a narrow fit?   The wide-fitting version is not available in the large sizes. 

My guess is that the right boot was a 12 but got accidentally marked with both 12 and 13 and was then wrongly treated as a 13 when paired with a 13 left.   But, as you say, you have what fits you!   

I am reminded of a radio sketch from the 1950s (Ron and Eth in 'The Glums') where Eth asks Ron why he is wearing one black shoe and one white shoe when they are out dancing,   Ron replies that he learned to dance out of a book, and (after a long pause) adds 'I've got another pair like this at home'.   Perhaps Ron has your counterpart boots?

"Strange things happen at sea."    

I would be at all surprised if there had been a partial swap. I remember some years ago shopping for suits in M+S. There was a time when jackets and trousers were sold separately. Made sense to me. On this occasion, there was no choice. You bought the jacket to suit and maybe got lucky with the trousers. I didn't, and needed a smaller size. I bought two jackets, that came with two trousers. The jacket that went back, didn't go back with the trousers it came with. Sounds like someone may have done something similar with the Kendra boots.

I bought some, I think earlier in the year (or late last year - which seems more likely). I ordered an 8, and go sent a 7. I will have a photo of me wearing them somewhere .... But they went back because they weren't comfortable being a size too small. I sometimes get away with a smaller size, but not these boots. I would have reordered them in an 8, but I guess at the time I either wasn't feeling wealthy enough to own them, or thought they'd get any use.

I've just found the pictures..... Lovely shaped heel, and felt nice (high) to wear. But every so slightly baggy on the leg. Not swimming around me, but not tight or close to it either. Ho-hum.

12 hours ago, Puffer said:

The ‘Enhance’ sock boots are UK13 (no wide available) and the stretchy fabric uppers make them a good fit on my ‘grammar school feet’ (i.e. 11+).   They have a nicely pointed toe and a straight 4.4” heel.   They are comfortable enough and easy to walk in – sturdier and more stable than many heeled boots which can tend to flex too much even if the heels are fairly solid. 

The men’s Chelsea boots are leather and 12 wide.   I like the semi-pointed toe with centre seam, but the heel (exactly 3”) is a little chunkier and lower than I would prefer and the shaft is only just high enough to preclude my ankles showing when sitting – something I dislike when wearing boots.   If anything, they are a little large (11 wide would probably be a better fit) but are comfortable enough and would certainly be acceptable for male street wearing. 

12 hours ago, Puffer said:

I am also considering the women’s suede ‘Recite’ boots from ASOS, also available in 13, which have a medium-chunky heel of close to 4” (good!) and a round toe (not so good!) – certainly wearable in public under bootcut jeans and currently on offer at £22.50.  

I would welcome views from others here before I do anything more.

I have tried to attach some pics of both boots with either narrow or bootcut jeans but every attempt is being foiled by suggestions that the file size is too large (which it isn't!).   Can anyone help, please?  

For what it's worth, I don't think wearing 'suede' or fabric shoes outside is prudent. I know others do, but I don't and it's not like I don't wear high heel out whenever I get the chance. I am always mindful of getting unwanted attention. A high heel worn by a man is risky enough. The sound, and change in gait are 'tells'. Materials, also (potentially) garner unwanted attention. I would recommend sticking to leather or fake/faux leather. 

I know something of your personal circumstances, and the 4" heels are not worth the trouble they might bring. The Chelsea boots would be acceptable anywhere. However, if you are not comfortable wearing them, they would be a bad purchase. I had a look at the Recite, and while they have a more interesting heel, they appear to be suede or suede. Again, this will tempt attention you probably don't want.

Ankle boots are becoming more and more a staple, and if ASOS are getting into larger sizes, it will only be a matter of time until you get a boot you feel comfortable in, with an adequate heel that looks 'manly' enough to escape criticism. No such animal exists for me though. I like to feel like I'm wearing a heel, which means it's going to be too high to be considered masculine. (It's a cross I have to bear.   )

As expected, went to the British Museum today, wearing heels of course.

Took some pictures and video intending to include them, but not sure I'm going to. 

Was a great afternoon, with waay too much to see. I would think it might take a good week to just eyeball what is there, much less take in what there is to see. The biggest group of visitors today were Pacific rim, meaning Chinese and Japanese. Some American, some English, some Italian, some Spanish. (British tourist season.) I am too culturally ignorant to know whether this museum is unique in it's content, or whether the content is so unique people from half way around the world would visit the UK to see it. I vaguely remember (I think) reading somewhere, the UK has the largest collection of Egyptian relics outside of Egypt. If that is true, I can understand why people might travel here and take in a visit to the British Museum. Photographs don't really provide an indication of size and scale very well. 

An example of that, (not Egyptian specific) is the Easter Island statue. There is one, and it's reasonably large, yet smaller than I imagined.  Conversely, the detail seen in some of the 3,000 year old Egyptian plates (wall plates used to depict historical events) is just incredible. Three dimensions provide a level of understanding of the skill involved, that I doubt a two dimensional image could ever do. Pictures aren't useless, but it's not hard to understand why seeing the 'real thing' face-to-face is so popular. And no entry fees for the main exhibitions!!  I would recommend a visit, if the opportunity presents itself.

As luck would have it, I found parking for free fairly straightforward. A short walk, and we arrived at the entrance. A couple there, sitting on a wall noticed my heels, with the woman nearly breaking her neck to stare at them as I walked past and around where she sat. They were not English, and maybe seeing a man in a heel was big news to them? 

They do a bag search on the way in, and this took no time at all. Once inside, I wanted to see what I think is the new(ish) main hall, that now has a stylish canopy, keeping the refreshment area light and dry. An hour or two of looking at Egyptian and Greek relics, had me quite thirsty, and just a little hungry. The 'cream tea', went for £5-50 a serving, which is a scone the size of half a house brick, jam and cream, together with coffee of tea. A bargain given hot liquid refreshment came in at £3-25. The cream tea was a no-brainer.

By the time the huge cake was eaten (it really was too much), it was quite late and we only had time to visit the (closed) third floor restaurant to look down onto the main hall from a 30ft vantage point. It was impossible to ignore the grandeur of the building. (I was so proud, I nearly got a tear in my eye. ) All too soon the visit was over.

Epilogue.

Almost no-one had spotted my heels, though one or two inside had. No comments, no dramas, no adverse reaction I was aware of. All good.

Except .... Un-bel-ievably, that couple we'd seen on the way in, were still sitting on the same wall as we left, more than 3 hours later. Yes, they looked again, and again I wondered how small their world must be, to find my footwear so interesting. I don't mind people noticing. I don't mind people looking, but staring? Just plain rude.  Whenever people stare, I'm just a little embarrassed I'm not wearing prettier shoes. Ankle boots with slim heels, or some stiletto courts, rather than the sturdy and very very comfortable ankle boots I practically live in, when I'm out. 

Hello, and welcome.

Nice boots. 

I was at the British Museum today ... If you'd have been free?? 

On 6/20/2019 at 11:04 PM, Puffer said:

I bow to your superior (and possibly intimate) knowledge of such activity!   

You are being too modest. I'm sure your coat is significantly older and more worn than mine.   

On 6/17/2019 at 8:49 AM, Puffer said:

There's always the Treasures of Tooting Common. 

Isn't that men with long coats looking for similarly dressed men, often if not always, some hours into the night?